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Trust vs.
Where we're curious about the concept of trust in cybersecurity

Introducing Trust vs.

In this series, we'll explore the burning questions and challenges that cybersecurity professionals, company leaders, legislators, and suppliers all face. Join us and a roster of exciting guests as we challenge trust, and dive into the world of confidence in cybersecurity. 

Listen to the Season Finale!

Available wherever you download your podcasts. 

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Director, Global Healthcare Business Strategy, Microsoft

In the inaugural episode of Trust vs., join hosts Jeremy and Robert as they dive into the importance of compliance and its relationship with trust, with David Houlding, Director of Global Healthcare Business Strategy at Microsoft. David leads the privacy and compliance initiatives for healthcare and life sciences, and brings three decades of experience in the space to the table. They discuss the vital role of compliance when serving healthcare partners, the role and importance of compliance regulations, and the effect that the cloud has.

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Chief Information Security Officer, ASG

John Overbaugh is a passionate information security leader with 30 years of experience helping companies grow and innovate while right-sizing information security strategy. He bridges the gap between executive leadership and technical execution, is driven to help teams get to yes, and is energized by enabling the business while protecting assets. Much of John's work history is in healthcare startups, where he has led security and IT strategy. At the same time, his 15 years of experience building software at Microsoft and other organizations give him a unique perspective into application development and IT security. As a CISO in private equity, John focuses on helping CEOs and CTOs develop their security strategy, with an emphasis not only on protecting value but increasing value through enhanced security. 

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Chief Technology Risk Officer
Kaiser Permanente

George D. DeCesare joined Kaiser Permanente in 2015 as the organization’s Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Risk Officer, accountable for technology risk management for Kaiser Permanente. Emphasizing the privacy, security, and integrity of Kaiser Permanente and its member’s data while ensuring technology regulatory compliance, George leads cross-functional teams to promote mature risk management practices across the enterprise through the application of technology and adoption of innovation. In this role, services are provided across Kaiser Permanente covering its 12 million members, patients, clinicians, and customers as well as services for its workforce and vendors. George has a wealth of experience leading this type of work across complex, large scale organizations.

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Security Principal, AWS

Mark Nunnikhoven explores the impact of technology through the lens of privacy and security. A Principal with Amazon Security, Mark works with teams and customers to help promote and modernize security practices. 





Chris Hetner


Chris Hetner is a Senior Executive, Board Director, and leader in Cybersecurity recognized for raising cyber risk to the Corporate Board level to protect industries, infrastructures, and economies.  He creates operational resilience by aligning robust Cybersecurity strategies with business objectives. Mr. Hetner’s professional judgment combined with a public company perspective and SEC regulatory and investor oversight experience has led to his success in corporate and government roles. Currently, he is on the board of directors of a PE Fund TCIG, a Senior Advisor for the Chertoff Group, the Special Advisor for Cyber Risk for the NACD, Chair Cybersecurity and Privacy for the NASDAQ Center for Board Excellence and a National Board Member of the Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers. 

He served as the Senior Cybersecurity Advisor to the Chair of the United States Securities and Exchange Commission and as Head of Cybersecurity for the Office of Compliance Inspections and Examination at the SEC. He also represented the Chair of the SEC as a senior member of the US Department of the Treasury Financial Banking Information Infrastructure Committee.  

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The final episode in this season is led by hosts Jeremy Huval, Chief Innovation Officer at HITRUST, and Robert Booker, Chief Strategy Officer at HITRUST. 

In the final episode of Season 1, Jeremy and Robert look into the future of cybersecurity, assurance and compliance. Listen to a collection of this season’s guests about their predictions for the future and how disruptive technologies like AI will shake up the industry. Find out how to maintain trust in this era of technology, and uncover how it might impact you and your business.

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Founder & CEO, Cloudticity

Gerry is a serial entrepreneur and healthcare fanatic with over 30 years in the technology industry. Prior to Cloudticity, Gerry was the chief operating officer at ePrize. Before ePrize, Gerry spent eight years at Microsoft, first as chief technology officer, then running the global business unit that oversaw General Motors.




Omar Khawaja

VP Security, Field CISO

Omar Khawaja is passionate about people, community, frameworks, communication and measurement. Omar is currently VP, Field CISO at Databricks. In the past, he was Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) of $26B Highmark Health as it grew YoY by $1.5B for 9 years. Prior to Highmark Health, Omar was at Verizon Enterprise Solutions, where he had product management and marketing responsibilities for their security solutions portfolio with customers in 72 countries.

To sustain the effective delivery of cyber risk mitigation at scale, Omar led the development and execution of 14 frameworks and 8 measurement programs. For this focus on resilience and scalability, he  has been profiled by: Wall Street Journal, SANS, Forrester, Gartner, NACD, Reuters, HIMSS, CSO Magazine, CMU and others. 

Omar has a BS in Electrical Engineering from Georgia Tech and an MBA from University of Virginia's Darden School of Business. Omar currently serves on the boards of HITRUST, The FAIR Institute and Leadership Pittsburgh; he also serves as an advisor to a half dozen tech firms and as faculty for the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) program at Carnegie Mellon University.

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